Texas governor stirs controversy

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by Isabella

Al, have you thought about the innocent children that find their parent's gun and start playing with it and shoot themselves or someone else? I was shot when I was a child. Another child visiting our camp found a gun, shot it not knowing any better and the bullet went through the wall and hit me in the stomach.

Isabella, dont blame the gun for parental failure. Obviously, guns can be dangerous and deadly in the hands of a child who isnt educated about the proper handling of them. Education should start early, and all guns should be securely stored where young children cant get their little hands on them.

[Isabella]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Isabella, dont blame the gun for parental failure. Obviously, guns can be dangerous and deadly in the hands of a child who isnt educated about the proper handling of them. Education should start early, and all guns should be securely stored where young children cant get their little hands on them.

Al, where do you keep your gun in your vehicle, home, and work? This child was about 4 years old or younger and went into a room he was not allowed, when the grownups were not looking. The gun was thought to be unloaded, too. That was always my mother's rule before bringing a gun inside.

[Isabella]

You know accidents happen no matter how careful you are. My family has always had guns and no one feels the way I do. We were all taught gun safety at a very young age. The child who shot me was a visitor who knew nothing about guns. My husband's grandfather was killed in a hunting accident. A lady was shot at our hunting lease by accident by a visitor's gun that went off when he got his gun out of his truck.

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by Isabella

Al, where do you keep your gun in your vehicle, home, and work? This child was about 4 years old or younger and went into a room he was not allowed, when the grownups were not looking. The gun was thought to be unloaded, too. That was always my mother's rule before bringing a gun inside.

All of our guns are stored in a locked steel security cabinet. We dont have any young children in our home, but when the grandkids come over I always make sure there are no guns left lyin around...they all go into the locker. And your mom's rule is perfectly sound, though I should point out that in the event that the gun will be needed in an emergency, you'd damn sure better be able to access the ammunition and load it quickly. Accidents happen when somebody drops the ball and fails to ascertain whether a gun is loaded. It just goes with the territory. If you're gonna have guns, you'd better make a habit of checkin them before ya handle em. If there are young children around, you'd better start educating them early on about gun safety, and you'd better insure that the guns are stored in such a way that they cant be accessed by anyone that cant be trusted to safely handle em.

[Al Swearengen]

Look, guns are inherently dangerous. Theres no disputin that, ok? But its no different than teaching children not to grab pots and pans off the stove top and potentially scaldin themselves. Same thing with fire and matches. Same thing with sharp knives, or lawn mowers, or bathtubs, or electrical wall outlets, or any number of things that can cause injury if not handled properly. Education, education, education...gun safety is contingent on gun education. The importance of it cant be stressed enough.

[Isabella]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Look, guns are inherently dangerous. Theres no disputin this, ok? Its no different than teaching children not to grab pots and pans off the stove top and potentially scaldin themselves. Same thing with fire and matches. Same thing with sharp knives, or lawn mowers, or any number of things that can cause injury if not handled properly. Education, education, education...gun safety is contingent on gun education. The importance of it cant be stressed enough.

I agree! I hate guns with a passion!

If you still could, I bet you would give me a negative for this post.

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by Isabella

I agree! I hate guns with a passion!

If you still could, I bet you would give me a negative for this post.

Isabella, ya have the right to hate guns with a passion, and ya have the right to not have any in your home. Its a free country.

As important as the issue is to me, I recognize that there will always be those who dont share my opinions, and thats ok. I've never given points to anyone, for anything, negative or otherwise. Just ask the staff.

[Isabella]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Isabella, ya have the right to hate guns with a passion, and ya have the right to not have any in your home. Its a free country.

As important as the issue is to me, I recognize that there will always be those who dont share my opinions, and thats ok. I've never given points to anyone, for anything, negative or otherwise. Just ask the staff.

Al, I was just teasing about the points. I don't care. You are right, this is a free country and you have the right to feel the way you do about guns. I guess you can say, we agree to disagree about this matter.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Look, guns are inherently dangerous. Theres no disputin that, ok? But its no different than teaching children not to grab pots and pans off the stove top and potentially scaldin themselves. Same thing with fire and matches. Same thing with sharp knives, or lawn mowers, or bathtubs, or electrical wall outlets, or any number of things that can cause injury if not handled properly. Education, education, education...gun safety is contingent on gun education. The importance of it cant be stressed enough.

I didn't say guns weren't dangerous.
I didn't say we need more gun control laws.
I didn't say you need to have your firearms taken away.
I didn't say we needed to infringe, appeal, or tamper with the right to bare arms in any way, shape, or form.

I said MORE guns doesn't equal less crime and I have more than proved that point with support of the Federal government.

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

I didn't say guns weren't dangerous.
I didn't say we need more gun control laws.
I didn't say you need to have your firearms taken away.
I didn't say we needed to infringe, appeal, or tamper with the right to bare arms in any way, shape, or form.

I said MORE guns doesn't equal less crime and I have more than proved that point with support of the Federal government.

Ya havent proved jackschit! More guns DO equal less crime, which I JUST proved to you, but you're too goddamned stubborn to admit you're wrong, which doesnt speak all that highly of your intelligence. Ya just get off on being controversial/adversarial for the sake of it, and your history on this forum proves that beyond a doubt. Now, a good-faith effort has been made to educate ya on the facts, but if ya INSIST on remainin ignorant then we cant help ya. Ya called ME a "gun-toting zealot"? Ya jackass, its people like me that regularly make donations to the NRA (you sure as hell aint gonna do it), an organization dedicated SOLELY to protectin not just MY rights but YOURS as well. I dont mind ya bein stupid, but I DO mind ya tryin to infect the uninformed with your stupidity. So next time ya feel the urge to spout off about things ya know nothin about, PLEASE do us all a favor and shut your piehole.

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Ya havent proved jackschit! More guns DO equal less crime, which I JUST proved to you, but you're too goddamned stubborn to admit you're wrong, which doesnt speak all that highly of your intelligence. Ya just get off on being controversial/adversarial for the sake of it, and your history on this forum proves that beyond a doubt. Now, a good-faith effort has been made to educate ya on the facts, but if ya INSIST on remainin ignorant then we cant help ya. Ya called ME a "gun-toting zealot"? Ya jackass, its people like me that regularly make donations to the NRA (you sure as hell aint gonna do it), an organization dedicated SOLELY to protectin not just MY rights but YOURS as well. I dont mind ya bein stupid, but I DO mind ya tryin to infect the uninformed with your stupidity. So next time ya feel the urge to spout off about things ya know nothin about, PLEASE do us all a favor and shut your piehole.

Well said Al.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Ya havent proved jackschit! More guns DO equal less crime, which I JUST proved to you, but you're too goddamned stubborn to admit you're wrong, which doesnt speak all that highly of your intelligence. Ya just get off on being controversial/adversarial for the sake of it, and your history on this forum proves that beyond a doubt. Now, a good-faith effort has been made to educate ya on the facts, but if ya INSIST on remainin ignorant then we cant help ya. Ya called ME a "gun-toting zealot"? Ya jackass, its people like me that regularly make donations to the NRA (you sure as hell aint gonna do it), an organization dedicated SOLELY to protectin not just MY rights but YOURS as well. I dont mind ya bein stupid, but I DO mind ya tryin to infect the uninformed with your stupidity. So next time ya feel the urge to spout off about things ya know nothin about, PLEASE do us all a favor and shut your piehole.

Nope, all you've done is call the Department of Justice a bunch of liars who manipulate their own data.

Almost as stupid as Isaac's belief that support of the First Amendment makes one a Socialist.