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LateNight 05-05-2007 12:16 PM

Let's see.. where was that dog thread.... Ohhh, here it is:

Are your pets like your children

:D

Don't mind me, that's the cold medicine talking... :)

Isaac-Saxxon 05-05-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight
Let's see.. where was that dog thread.... Ohhh, here it is:

Are your pets like your children

:D

Don't mind me, that's the cold medicine talking... :)

I going to tell on you :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Texasbelle 05-05-2007 12:34 PM

LN, what EXACTLY are you trying to say?????????????????????????

:shoethrow: There, that ought to help unclog your nappy head!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LateNight 05-05-2007 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasbelle
LN, what EXACTLY are you trying to say?????????????????????????

:shoethrow: There, that ought to help unclog your nappy head!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Well, I thought that was better than posting something like :offtopic:

Isaac-Saxxon 05-05-2007 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
LN, what EXACTLY are you trying to say?????????????????????????

:shoethrow: There, that ought to help unclog your nappy head! :

:offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic: :goodpost2: :offtopic: :sorry:

joepole 05-05-2007 07:24 PM

>If you point a gun at someone, tell them to freeze and they continue advancing towards you, then you have reason to fear for your safety.

According to LA law if someone is unlawfully in your home or attempting to unlawfully enter your home you are automatically assumed to hold a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent unlawful entry or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises, period. Whether they are advancing or not. Whether they are armed or not. Even if they are a 105 year old woman and you are a Navy SEAL. The only exception is if you're running a crack den or meth lab.

How has this gone on this long without you actually reading the law you're talking about?

rhertz 05-05-2007 07:35 PM

IANAL, but I used to hear stories where if a burglar enters your home through a window and you shoot him as he is crawling in, then you should pull the dead body into the room rather than let it fall back outside. I'm sure this is BS, but maybe in the past, trespassing inside your home is different than trespassing in your yard, so to speak. Maybe there is a shread of truth to this scenario even today. Not that I would avocate lying or tampering with evidence. But honest people get caught up in an imperfect system every day.

joepole 05-05-2007 07:38 PM

LA law says that anyone either unlawfully inside your home or attempting to unlawfully enter your home (or car of place of business) can be killed by someone lawfully inside the home, period. The law is unambiguous, Brain doesn't know what he's talking abut.

Al Swearengen 05-05-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
LA law says that anyone either unlawfully inside your home or attempting to unlawfully enter your home (or car of place of business) can be killed by someone lawfully inside the home, period. The law is unambiguous, Brain doesn't know what he's talking abut.

LOL...I couldnt have said it better myself! Brain cant seem to admit when he's wrong. Thats always been his problem...that, and he speaks on matters he knows NOTHIN about! Thanks Isaac, T-Belle, Neo, LateNight and Joe. I appreciate your efforts!

Al Swearengen 05-05-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
I didn't say guns weren't dangerous.
I didn't say we need more gun control laws.
I didn't say you need to have your firearms taken away.
I didn't say we needed to infringe, appeal, or tamper with the right to bare arms in any way, shape, or form.

I said MORE guns doesn't equal less crime and I have more than proved that point with support of the Federal government.


Ya havent proved jackschit! More guns DO equal less crime, which I JUST proved to you, but you're too goddamned stubborn to admit you're wrong, which doesnt speak all that highly of your intelligence. Ya just get off on being controversial/adversarial for the sake of it, and your history on this forum proves that beyond a doubt. Now, a good-faith effort has been made to educate ya on the facts, but if ya INSIST on remainin ignorant then we cant help ya. Ya called ME a "gun-toting zealot"? Ya jackass, its people like me that regularly make donations to the NRA (you sure as hell aint gonna do it), an organization dedicated SOLELY to protectin not just MY rights but YOURS as well. I dont mind ya bein stupid, but I DO mind ya tryin to infect the uninformed with your stupidity. So next time ya feel the urge to spout off about things ya know nothin about, PLEASE do us all a favor and shut your piehole.

Texasbelle 05-05-2007 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Ya havent proved jackschit! More guns DO equal less crime, which I JUST proved to you, but you're too goddamned stubborn to admit you're wrong, which doesnt speak all that highly of your intelligence. Ya just get off on being controversial/adversarial for the sake of it, and your history on this forum proves that beyond a doubt. Now, a good-faith effort has been made to educate ya on the facts, but if ya INSIST on remainin ignorant then we cant help ya. Ya called ME a "gun-toting zealot"? Ya jackass, its people like me that regularly make donations to the NRA (you sure as hell aint gonna do it), an organization dedicated SOLELY to protectin not just MY rights but YOURS as well. I dont mind ya bein stupid, but I DO mind ya tryin to infect the uninformed with your stupidity. So next time ya feel the urge to spout off about things ya know nothin about, PLEASE do us all a favor and shut your piehole.

Well said Al. :clapbig: :clapbig: :clapbig: :clapbig: :clapbig:

BrainSmashR 05-05-2007 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joepole
>If you point a gun at someone, tell them to freeze and they continue advancing towards you, then you have reason to fear for your safety.

According to LA law if someone is unlawfully in your home or attempting to unlawfully enter your home you are automatically assumed to hold a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent unlawful entry or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises, period. Whether they are advancing or not. Whether they are armed or not. Even if they are a 105 year old woman and you are a Navy SEAL. The only exception is if you're running a crack den or meth lab.

How has this gone on this long without you actually reading the law you're talking about?

I've read the law multiple times. I just don't make **** up like you do.

It says you don't have to retreat, not that you automatically assume your safety is in danger and nothing less than deadly force will resolve the situation.

Even in your example, the shooter gave warning and only fired because the victim continued advancing, and although the story made no indication, I'm sure this version of the story was supported by both the friend of the victim and the shooters wife.

BrainSmashR 05-05-2007 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Ya havent proved jackschit! More guns DO equal less crime, which I JUST proved to you, but you're too goddamned stubborn to admit you're wrong, which doesnt speak all that highly of your intelligence. Ya just get off on being controversial/adversarial for the sake of it, and your history on this forum proves that beyond a doubt. Now, a good-faith effort has been made to educate ya on the facts, but if ya INSIST on remainin ignorant then we cant help ya. Ya called ME a "gun-toting zealot"? Ya jackass, its people like me that regularly make donations to the NRA (you sure as hell aint gonna do it), an organization dedicated SOLELY to protectin not just MY rights but YOURS as well. I dont mind ya bein stupid, but I DO mind ya tryin to infect the uninformed with your stupidity. So next time ya feel the urge to spout off about things ya know nothin about, PLEASE do us all a favor and shut your piehole.

Nope, all you've done is call the Department of Justice a bunch of liars who manipulate their own data.

Almost as stupid as Isaac's belief that support of the First Amendment makes one a Socialist.

Al Swearengen 05-06-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Nope, all you've done is call the Department of Justice a bunch of liars who manipulate their own data.

Almost as stupid as Isaac's belief that support of the First Amendment makes one a Socialist.

Isaac knows a great deal more about what it means to be an American, a citizen of our Constitutional Republic, than ya ever will. I suggest ya extract your head from your ass and concentrate more on preservin (y)our freedoms and less on being a nuisance! Ya claim to be a friend and supporter of the Second Amendment? Not from where Im standin! Ya can start by admittin ya dont know schit about the law. THEN ya can contact the NRA and make a donation. Next time ya post, I'll be expectin to hear that you've done just that! Do otherwise and you'll be exposin yourself for the socialist anti-American gun-grabbin freedom-hater that I strongly suspect ya to be.

joepole 05-06-2007 01:31 AM

>It says you don't have to retreat, not that you automatically assume your safety is in danger and nothing less than deadly force will resolve the situation.

You should read it again, it says exactly that.


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