Local surgeon arrested in internet sex sting

kansast · 02-22-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>Do we wait for him to get ahold of some young girl FIRST, THEN arrest him ?

Yes, just like with every other crime.

>Or should he not try to be stopped in some way BEFORE it happens ?

Before what happens? Before he has sex with a 15 year old that doesn't exist?

I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here

Can't you get busted for the "intent" to do something ? Or if you solicit someone to a do a murder ?

AnimeSpirit · 02-22-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kansast

Can't you get busted for the "intent" to do something ? Or if you solicit someone to a do a murder ?

I don't think you can be busted for intending to commit a crime until you attempt it. As far as soliciting someone to murder, you can't get busted until you and the person have conspired to do so, if I'm not mistaken.

For instance, if someone asked a friend of theirs to kill me, it would not become a conspiracy to do so until they plan how and under what circumstances.

Al Swearengen · 02-22-2007, 07:28 PM

Well, since he ALMOST went thru with it, they should ALMOST prosecute him for it! I'd think the public humiliation and disgrace would be punishment enough...not to mention the damage to his career and whatever loses he incurs with that.

Isaac-Saxxon · 02-22-2007, 08:06 PM

Would they have to tie a sacrificial lamb to a post and wait till he bites it before they stop his predator like behavior. Please this is not aimed at you guys but having three daughters I feel like this perv should be charged and maybe do some treatment time and have to post his presence in any place he lives. I think the word is pedophile. The courts will have the final say but he is very wrong here ! Very

Isaac

joepole · 02-22-2007, 08:10 PM

>I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here

I have two daughters.

Isaac-Saxxon · 02-22-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here

I have two daughters.

I agree that the set up part of this by the police is a fine line. The guy out trying to pick up children needs to be dealt with in a way to stop what he is doing. If I found photos on my daughter computer with that 42 year olds pecker on it and I could find him he would have a large problem. Yes I hear you wheels turning if my daughter was a tramp then who is at fault. I say the older cunning man over the 15 year foolish child. I do see both sides of the issue the police do like to make a name for the department some times but I agree with the police on this issue. I respect your view too.
Isaac

rhertz · 02-23-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

I respect your view too.

Is it my imagination or has Sir Isaac lightened up a little here recently?

He had me wondering there for a while. still does sometimes (ducking)

By the way, I have yet to put anyone on this board "on ignore". I thought I was going to for the first time last weekend. But so far, I'm wide open. There really isn't enough traffic on this board to make it a real problem.

Al Swearengen · 02-23-2007, 02:19 AM

I was gonna make a tasteless comment...but nevermind.

kansast · 02-23-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here

I have two daughters.

Well I stand corrected. Sorry about that Joe.
I just about have to agree. I was the first to bring up the 'intent' vs. actually committing the crime. It's just when it comes to Pedophiles whether it's intent or not, just bothers me. I'm all for giving someone the benefit of a doubt when ever I hear of cases like this. I can only imagine how many lives have been ruined because of false accusations. This however was not a false accusation, so it'll be interesting to see how any trial goes. It's like those hooker sting operations.. I mean all you have to do is ASK right ? then you get busted ?

BrainSmashR · 02-23-2007, 10:46 AM

This is entrapment, plain and simple....but I disagree with letting him "slide" too.

A "sexual encounter" date needed to be setup, and if they guy arrived on the scene, THEN arrest/charge him before he commits the crime but after he has shown clear intention of committing a crime.

As it stands, he's done nothing more significant than expose himself as a dirty old man who finds teenage women attractive.....and a lot of us fall into that category.

Brooke Hogan, only 18. I rest my case.

02-22-2007, 08:06 PM	#4
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 340	Excuse me here on this one ... Would they have to tie a sacrificial lamb to a post and wait till he bites it before they stop his predator like behavior. Please this is not aimed at you guys but having three daughters I feel like this perv should be charged and maybe do some treatment time and have to post his presence in any place he lives. I think the word is pedophile. The courts will have the final say but he is very wrong here ! Very Isaac

02-23-2007, 02:19 AM	#8
Al Swearengen Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 849 Rep Power: 269	I was gonna make a tasteless comment...but nevermind. Last edited by Al Swearengen; 02-23-2007 at 02:41 AM.

02-22-2007, 07:28 PM	#3
Al Swearengen Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 849 Rep Power: 269	Well, since he ALMOST went thru with it, they should ALMOST prosecute him for it! I'd think the public humiliation and disgrace would be punishment enough...not to mention the damage to his career and whatever loses he incurs with that.

02-22-2007, 08:10 PM	#5
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 281	>I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here I have two daughters.

02-23-2007, 10:46 AM	#10
BrainSmashR Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Natchitoches Age: 54 Posts: 1,090 Rep Power: 0	This is entrapment, plain and simple....but I disagree with letting him "slide" too. A "sexual encounter" date needed to be setup, and if they guy arrived on the scene, THEN arrest/charge him before he commits the crime but after he has shown clear intention of committing a crime. As it stands, he's done nothing more significant than expose himself as a dirty old man who finds teenage women attractive.....and a lot of us fall into that category. Brooke Hogan, only 18. I rest my case.

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