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Old 02-23-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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>I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here

I have two daughters.
Well I stand corrected. Sorry about that Joe.
I just about have to agree. I was the first to bring up the 'intent' vs. actually committing the crime. It's just when it comes to Pedophiles whether it's intent or not, just bothers me. I'm all for giving someone the benefit of a doubt when ever I hear of cases like this. I can only imagine how many lives have been ruined because of false accusations. This however was not a false accusation, so it'll be interesting to see how any trial goes. It's like those hooker sting operations.. I mean all you have to do is ASK right ? then you get busted ?
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:46 AM   #2
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This is entrapment, plain and simple....but I disagree with letting him "slide" too.

A "sexual encounter" date needed to be setup, and if they guy arrived on the scene, THEN arrest/charge him before he commits the crime but after he has shown clear intention of committing a crime.

As it stands, he's done nothing more significant than expose himself as a dirty old man who finds teenage women attractive.....and a lot of us fall into that category.

Brooke Hogan, only 18. I rest my case.

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Old 02-23-2007, 10:51 AM   #3
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Slocum, a general surgeon and vascular surgeon who teaches part-time at the medical school here, was arrested at Columbia Park in Shreveport late Tuesday afternoon. Authorities said he had made arrangements for a meeting there to get the pictures.

D'oh

Guess I should read the story instead of just the comments. Appears he made arrangements to receive child pornography AND arrived on the scene.....clear cut case of intention to commit a crime as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:56 AM   #4
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Yeah, but she's like a supermodel type. Lechers are to be expected in her case. We're talking about what could have been some 15-year-old girl. If I'm reading the posts right, I think he did go to meet her somewhere and that was where he was busted. I don't know if this meeting was for a sexual plan though.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:00 AM   #5
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Yeah, but she's like a supermodel type. Lechers are to be expected in her case. We're talking about what could have been some 15-year-old girl. If I'm reading the posts right, I think he did go to meet her somewhere and that was where he was busted. I don't know if this meeting was for a sexual plan though.

The way I understood it is that the purpose of the meeting was to receive pornographic pictures of a 15 year old girl, and he showed up.

Clear cut case of intention to acquire illegal goods as far as I'm concerned....simply put, I can no longer dismiss his actions as simple flirting.
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:19 PM   #6
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First I would like to ask Joepole how old are his daughters? Are they toddlers, elementary, middle or high school age?

2nd I have an 18 yr old daughter and some of you know her in RL what she looked like at 15, no she didn't look 15!!!! I kept a lock down on her computer during her early teenage years till she moved out the house due to perverts out there just as this dr. I watch to catch a perdator each week and each time one of those guys walk in the house they deserve the 50k bond that is fixing to be slapped on them.

When will men wake up and realize what a chlid is vs a legal girl? Is youth so tempting that you loose your career and family over? What do men see in these young girls? Yes they are beautiful but remember they are NOT LEGAL! Is it the innocence of the under age girls that is so tempting like they have never had sex before? Don't men realize in todays society more and more girls are having sex at the ages of 12 and up? Is it the sexy clothes these parents are allowing their under age children to wear that tempts men?

If you ask me it's pathetic, sick and immoral but who has high morals these days?

If the intent on the internet is talked about having sex, doing this and doing that and sending nude pictures of themselves to under age girls believe me the intent is to have sex with them.

In texas they don't even have to show up for the meeting all they have to do is have the intent and they get arrested.

I say wake up men and keep your nasty thoughts in your minds and not on the computer because it will cause you more grief in the end if you are caught.

And that's my .03!
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>This however was not a false accusation

Sure it was. There no minor involved.
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I do not think the court will see it that way joe

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>This however was not a false accusation

Sure it was. There no minor involved.
I agree that there was not a minor involved this time because the police took the place of the 15 year old but that does not change the fact that the doctor was on the hunt. I have three daughters and they dress like the older girls and it is hard to stop that I have one still in the nest and she is 15 and
5'10" and very pretty and does not look 15 so I guard her close because I know how naive she really is.
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:33 PM   #9
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>This however was not a false accusation

Sure it was. There no minor involved.
Come on Joe, I think you know what I was talking about.
Jane falsely accusing John of Rape != John getting faked out and caught trying to attempt the crime.

One is false accusation and the other is INTENT. Big difference I would think.
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I agree, hence my statement about why public indecency might apply, but rape would not. Solicitating a minor is highly questionable because it wasn't actually a minor. The intent is compelling, but can he be prosecuted for it alone?
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>This however was not a false accusation
Sure it was. There no minor involved.
True there is no *real* minor involved just like with a prostitution sting there is no real prostitute involved. I don't know if they are allowed to use real drugs in a drug sting or not. I would suspect so, but but then a drug is an object and not a person which can be harmed or violated.

The whole premise of a "sting" seems to be based on a virtual prostitute or a virtual victim because if they used the "real thing", the law enforcers would be breaking the actual law that they are trying to enforce. So the result would be to accept this "catch 22" and not allow stings, or else create laws that work around this "catch 22" so that law enforcers are allowed to setup sting operations.
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