Do American Gun Laws Need To Be Changed?

sbl_admin · 04-17-2007, 08:39 AM

"Why, we ask, do Americans continue to tolerate gun laws and a culture that seems to condemn thousands of innocents to death every year, when presumably, tougher restrictions, such as those in force in European countries, could at least reduce the number?"

Texasbelle · 04-17-2007, 08:42 AM

Yes, they need to be changed. If just one person yesterday in that college building had their weapon with them (those allowed to carry a concealed weapon), then maybe a few lives could have been saved. You will never stop the criminals from having weapons. They break the laws, they don't abide by them. To further take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens would be detrimental to our society.

joepole · 04-17-2007, 09:39 AM

Answer:

Because "saving lives" isn't the ultimate goal of our government, "preserving freedom" is.

Isaac-Saxxon · 04-17-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole

Answer:

Because "saving lives" isn't the ultimate goal of our government, "preserving freedom" is.

I agree with you Joe.
Isaac

Texasbelle · 04-17-2007, 10:04 AM

Actually both need to be accomplished. Freedom first but saving lives would have been good yesterday!

Bubba McMillian · 04-17-2007, 10:05 AM

Let's put blame where it belongs, blame the shooter and not the gun.

Fatal car accident - do you blame the car?
Fatal stabbing - do you blame the knife

Let's put the responsibility where it belongs - the gun is not at fault but a highly defective person is at fault.

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

Texasbelle · 04-17-2007, 10:10 AM

Please don't think I am blaming the gun. I don't. It's all the shooter, but were the gun control laws different (and that is what this thread is about) the outcome yesterday could have been a little different. Somebody could have taken the a**hole out sooner before 32 people went down.

Neo · 04-17-2007, 11:05 AM

If alcohol, tobacco, and cholesterol/fat foods had even tighter restrictions or outlawed, the result would save more lives each year than murders by firearms by far. Mandantory HIV testing would have a great impact as well. I think it is sad our government usually reacts to a situation than looking toward the future and preventing a situation.

Neo · 04-17-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle

Yes, they need to be changed. If just one person yesterday in that college building had their weapon with them (those allowed to carry a concealed weapon), then maybe a few lives could have been saved. You will never stop the criminals from having weapons. They break the laws, they don't abide by them. To further take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens would be detrimental to our society.

Maybe we should control student visas in this country, or teach them the laws of this country better before they come over. ENFORCE the laws, that is the key!!!

BrainSmashR · 04-17-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle

Please don't think I am blaming the gun. I don't. It's all the shooter, but were the gun control laws different (and that is what this thread is about) the outcome yesterday could have been a little different. Somebody could have taken the a**hole out sooner before 32 people went down.

So then what you are saying is that we should repeal the school zone laws making possession of drugs firearms within 50' of school property a felony charge with mandatory time?

After all, that's the only way an honest person "could have taken that a**hole out sooner".

BrainSmashR · 04-17-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo

If alcohol, tobacco, and cholesterol/fat foods had even tighter restrictions or outlawed, the result would save more lives each year than murders by firearms by far. Mandantory HIV testing would have a great impact as well. I think it is sad our government usually reacts to a situation than looking toward the future and preventing a situation.

I REALLY hope this was an attempt at humor, otherwise it's downright scary.

04-17-2007, 08:39 AM	#1
sbl_admin Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 1,965 Rep Power: 273	Do American Gun Laws Need To Be Changed? "Why, we ask, do Americans continue to tolerate gun laws and a culture that seems to condemn thousands of innocents to death every year, when presumably, tougher restrictions, such as those in force in European countries, could at least reduce the number?"

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Bubba McMillian Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	"Gun Laws Do Not Need To Change" Let's put blame where it belongs, blame the shooter and not the gun. Fatal car accident - do you blame the car? Fatal stabbing - do you blame the knife Let's put the responsibility where it belongs - the gun is not at fault but a highly defective person is at fault. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".

04-17-2007, 08:42 AM	#2
Texasbelle SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the woods Posts: 1,819 Rep Power: 278	Yes, they need to be changed. If just one person yesterday in that college building had their weapon with them (those allowed to carry a concealed weapon), then maybe a few lives could have been saved. You will never stop the criminals from having weapons. They break the laws, they don't abide by them. To further take them out of the hands of law abiding citizens would be detrimental to our society.

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joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 271	Answer: Because "saving lives" isn't the ultimate goal of our government, "preserving freedom" is.

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Texasbelle SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the woods Posts: 1,819 Rep Power: 278	Actually both need to be accomplished. Freedom first but saving lives would have been good yesterday!

04-17-2007, 10:10 AM	#7
Texasbelle SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the woods Posts: 1,819 Rep Power: 278	Please don't think I am blaming the gun. I don't. It's all the shooter, but were the gun control laws different (and that is what this thread is about) the outcome yesterday could have been a little different. Somebody could have taken the a**hole out sooner before 32 people went down.

04-17-2007, 11:05 AM	#8
Neo Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 241	If alcohol, tobacco, and cholesterol/fat foods had even tighter restrictions or outlawed, the result would save more lives each year than murders by firearms by far. Mandantory HIV testing would have a great impact as well. I think it is sad our government usually reacts to a situation than looking toward the future and preventing a situation.

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